Twice President of the Swiss Confederation, and thirteen years a Federal Councillor, Adolf Ogi, one of Switzerland's most admired and popular leaders in modern times shares his personal reflections and some of his guiding principles with me.

In this episode we discuss:

-The importance of good leadership, and clear and repeated communication to persuade and understand people.

-One particular experience when he was invited to address European Union heads of states, in which he explains Switzerland to them!

-The United Nations, Kofi Annan, Sport and Peace played an important part in his career as a statesman and he explains why.